Bigfoot News May 10, 2013
Update on the Rick Dyer story. The word out among the deniers of the Rick Dyer story of killing a Bigfoot is that the story has been exposed as a hoax, and it’s all over. No one believes it anymore, Team Tracker folks are leaving and being thrown out, and Dyer has left the Bigfoot community.
It is true that some folks who were on the fence has moved over to the hoax camp. A tiny number who thought the story was true have also moved into the hoax camp. Team Tracker folks are not leaving. I am not sure if a few have been thrown out or not. Dyer has left the community, but he continues to update his blog.
Bottom line is the story has not been proven to be a hoax at all. Shooting Bigfoot, the movie, was a disappointment, but only because we thought it would show excellent proof that Rick shot a Bigfoot. It did not do that, but it also did not prove that it was a hoax. Instead it left it up in the air. The last three minutes of the movie is shocking footage, and it in no way shows what has been proven to be a mask or a man in a suit. In fact, it does not look like either.
People still in the Dyer Camp. Facebook/Find Bigfoot, Christopher Noel and I are still in the Dyer camp. FB/FB say they still stand by the story 100% (but they contradict this somewhat in holding out a tiny % of a chance that Rick has pulled off the most unbelievable and impossible hoax in history), and I believe Noel does too, though it was hard to get him to put a % on it. I now believe in the story 90%, down from 100% before. But I still think there is some meat here.
Christopher Noel’s six points in favor of the Rick Dyer story. Noel is apparently still a 100% believer in the Dyer story. He recently listed six points in favor of the argument that Dyer shot a Bigfoot:
Expert analysis of the Hank (the Bigfoot Rick shot) photo in Shooting Bigfoot. One photo of Hank from Shooting Bigfoot has been released. Minnow Films quickly told me and others to take it down and we did. I showed the still to a friend of mine who works in a museum with replicas. He is one of the world’s top experts in these model replicas.
He said that the Hank still is not a man in a costume, and it is not a mask. He said it is either a Bigfoot or it is CGI. However, if you look in the credits for Shooting Bigfoot, there are no CGI or special effects credits listed. Therefore, my friend assumes it is a real Bigfoot.
“Facebook Find Bigfoot has shut down their page.” This is the latest lie going around from the Dyer deniers. Since FB/FB shut down their page, this proves the Dyer story was a hoax, and the hoax is now proven and busted. FB/FB had pinned all their hopes on the Shooting Bigfoot movie as having concrete evidence of Hank being killed. If the movie did not have such evidence, they said, they would shut down their page. The movie did not have that evidence, but it did not prove the story was a hoax either, so it was pretty much a wash.
The deniers and haters are who shut the page down, not FB/FB. The trolling and hostility had become so bad that FB/FB said they were suspending their page until further notice due to all the trolling by the haters. At some point in the future, they might open the page back up again. They don’t want to ban all the haters because they are not into censorship. So FB/FB did not shut down their page at all; they suspended it. And they suspended it due to hater trolling, not for any other reason.
Stills from Shooting Bigfoot being analyzed. The FB/FB guys are going over 65 stills from the movie and analyzing them. They also have video taken from the movie. Their conclusion is that this footage is of a real Bigfoot, and it is at least as good as the Patterson footage and possibly better. Musky Allen has also seen all of these stills and he told me that cumulatively, they are better than the Patterson footage. I think that their analysis is correct, but I have not seen all of the footage yet.
FB/FB Breakdown of Shooting Bigfoot footage will not be released. This is because of take-down threats by Min now. Any footage released will be subject to a Minnow takedown threat, so it will not be forthcoming.
I will receive all footage from Shooting Bigfoot soon. I am due to receive all 65 stills from the movie along with video footage from the flick. I can’t tell you who I will get it from, but it won’t be from FB/FB or Musky Allen; it will be from someone else instead. This stuff is starting to float around the web now.
“Morgan Matthews proved that Rick’s story is a lie.” This is the latest denier story going around. Supposedly Morgan proved that Rick’s story is a lie when he said he did not help load a Bigfoot onto a truck and he did not help transport a Bigfoot across a country.
Rick has cleared all of this up for us. Rick says that for some reason, Morgan never took any footage of Hank after he was killed. Morgan simply said they were done shooting for the night and were leaving in the morning. Rick said that Morgan watched the Bigfoot being loaded into the truck but he did not help load it. In addition, only Rick and his investors transported the body across the country. Morgan and his team left that morning.
You cannot buy a copy of Shooting Bigfoot from Minnow Films. Early inquiries to Minnow had them telling us that you might be able to buy a copy of the movie from them. However, the most recent word we heard from them was this:
Hank’s body will be released on August 15. Lily Dyer has said that Hank will be released to the public on August 15. This is the famous date of the Rick Dyer 2008 Bigfoot hoax. This is not a coincidence and either means that Rick is going to screw us again on that date as an anniversary present or he is going to redeem himself on that date by showing us a real Bigfoot.
Christopher Noel and FB/FB feel that Dyer is on a mission to be redeemed, and I agree with that view, as odd as it seems. The need for redemption for his sin or crime for whatever reason shows an interesting side to Rick that shows us that he has good qualities to his personality and he is not all bad. After all, only the good seek redemption for their sins. Whether the redemption is motivated by narcissism or by some higher mortal feeling is not particularly important.
Why doesn’t Rick release the body now? It’s not his to release. Apparently it is owned by either his investors or a Las Vegas casino right now, so it is not up to Rick to decide when or if to release the body. I am sorry it had to go this way – Hank landing in the hands of the capitalists. Would be a lot better to make a public display of donating it to the Smithsonian, perhaps, after first being proven real by say Jeff Meldrum or someone of that stature. The great scientific discoveries of our time are not exactly best served being owned by the profiteers.
Why did Matthews make such cryptic statements about Shooting Bigfoot? No one knows why Matthews made such cryptic comments. I have been asking around, but I have not gotten any answers yet. Here is the interview post-screening with Matthews.
The Bigfoot that attacked Morgan was only 6 feet tall. Supposedly Matthews said that the Bigfoot that attacked him was only 6 feet tall, and Hank is 8 feet tall. However, I am not sure that Morgan really made that statement and I am looking into it.
Dyer deniers still planting fake stories with me. I am still receiving fake stories from the Dyer deniers, probably the group around Don Boucher. The latest one was a photo of Hank supposedly from a relative of Rick’s wife Lily. This photo is obviously a Bigfoot mask. At this point, the Dyer haters are hoaxing us a lot more than Rick is.
FB/FB #2 Camper Video plus full sound. If you have not yet seen this excellent breakdown video, you really need to watch it. I liked it a lot.
Homo Heidelbergensis drawings. Here are some H. Heidelbergensis drawings that I found on the web. Heidelbergensis is thought to be what Bigfoots actually are. See how similar they look to the drawings of Bigfoots by people who have seen them.
The photo above, like the others, looks a bit too much like Sapiens.
Once again, too much of a Sapiens bias in the drawing above.
It is true that some folks who were on the fence has moved over to the hoax camp. A tiny number who thought the story was true have also moved into the hoax camp. Team Tracker folks are not leaving. I am not sure if a few have been thrown out or not. Dyer has left the community, but he continues to update his blog.
Bottom line is the story has not been proven to be a hoax at all. Shooting Bigfoot, the movie, was a disappointment, but only because we thought it would show excellent proof that Rick shot a Bigfoot. It did not do that, but it also did not prove that it was a hoax. Instead it left it up in the air. The last three minutes of the movie is shocking footage, and it in no way shows what has been proven to be a mask or a man in a suit. In fact, it does not look like either.
People still in the Dyer Camp. Facebook/Find Bigfoot, Christopher Noel and I are still in the Dyer camp. FB/FB say they still stand by the story 100% (but they contradict this somewhat in holding out a tiny % of a chance that Rick has pulled off the most unbelievable and impossible hoax in history), and I believe Noel does too, though it was hard to get him to put a % on it. I now believe in the story 90%, down from 100% before. But I still think there is some meat here.
Christopher Noel’s six points in favor of the Rick Dyer story. Noel is apparently still a 100% believer in the Dyer story. He recently listed six points in favor of the argument that Dyer shot a Bigfoot:
1) Back in September, Rick told FB/FB the whole story but swore them to secrecy. To their credit, they kept the information in the vault. Three months later, Robert Lindsay leaked the story of the killing, and only then did Rick speak of it publicly. This is not at all the profile of someone pushing a hoax, and a very different MO from back in 2008. Rick had made an agreement with Minnow Films not to reveal what happened that night in San Antonio, and he was sticking to it, but once the information was out, he confirmed it.Christopher’s six points are excellent and are good evidence that this is not a hoax.
2) Morgan Matthews and Minnow Films have now had five months to come forward and deny Rick’s version of events, which they have consistently failed to do, even now, in the wake of the documentary premiere. If Rick’s story were a hoax, Matthews and Minnow would be making themselves complicit with their recent and current behavior, a choice that would have a devastating impact upon their professional credibility and their standing in the film industry going forward.
I do not side with those who believe that participating in some grand hoax merely in order to shame and ridicule the Bigfoot research community would be a profitable approach.
As they well know, the truth will inevitably emerge (and probably quite soon), and if Matthews and Minnow were to turn out to have been complicit in such a hoax, their product would instantly become irrelevant and widely dismissed because it would have failed to use this trick in any meaningful way within the film itself and would be rightly seen as just manipulating and belittling its audience in addition to mocking its documentary subjects.
3) At the end of Shooting Bigfoot, the director sits on a plane, headed back home to England, face still black and blue from his recent violent encounter in the woods. We hear his voice explaining that “a viewer could reasonably conclude that I was attacked by someone in a suit.” This is all that he is willing to say, leaving us to mull it over and anticipate the sequel. (If there were to be no sequel, why end the current release with such a coy and blatant dot dot dot?)
Between the end of filming in San Antonio and the Toronto premiere, Matthews had nearly eight months to carefully craft his project in the editing room; as an experienced filmmaker, he can be assumed to have made highly conscious choices, based on proven storytelling techniques.
Why choose the precise language he did–“a viewer could reasonably conclude…”–unless he plans to execute a worthy twist along the lines of: “But that viewer would be wrong!”? Even the most die-hard Dyer detractors cannot honestly propose that the sequel (or an expanded director’s cut) will pick up the dramatic thread like this: “And that viewer would be…CORRECT…ha ha! No surprise here at all, folks!”
4) In his post-premiere interview, the director goes out of his way to answer a question that nobody is asking. “People want to know whether I transported a Bigfoot body. No, I did not.” Why set up a straw man to knock down instead of engaging directly with the question everyone is asking? That question would be: “Did you, Morgan Matthews, witness Rick Dyer killing and then transporting a Bigfoot body?” Matthews’ peculiar sidestepping and blatant refusal to weigh in on this matter further bolsters point #3.
5) In February, on his show Rick was asked whether the Sasquatch body has ten fingers and toes. He responded, “Yes. Well…it’s missing a pinky.” This portion of the show lasted about fifteen seconds, lost amid hours of meandering conversation and the typical bashing of “haters.” Fast forward two months, when Rick was asked to tell his audience something they didn’t already know, and he said, “Do you remember when I said he was missing a pinky?” Neither Daz nor Pink remembered that at all. But I did.
I don’t believe that Rick Dyer is a clever enough storyteller (if he’s telling a mere “story”) to hold such random facts stable in his head over months and hardly ever make use of them. I am sure folks will violently disagree, but to me this is the kind of narrative coherence that seems persuasive and beyond the skills of this man as “fiction writer.”
6) Dyer has maintained since the beginning of this whole saga that his main investor is someone everyone has heard of. I have now confirmed (through three independent sources) that this person is Hank Williams, Jr. This is why Dyer is calling the dead Sasquatch “Hank,” to honor his sponsor. I find this fact to be yet another indication of the overall coherence of the story, the way that details consistently presented since the beginning keep eventually proving accurate. Hoaxes and scams tend to fall apart over time. This story just keeps getting stronger.
Hank Williams, Jr., reputed to be one of Rick Dyer’s major investors in the Bigfoot body.
He said that the Hank still is not a man in a costume, and it is not a mask. He said it is either a Bigfoot or it is CGI. However, if you look in the credits for Shooting Bigfoot, there are no CGI or special effects credits listed. Therefore, my friend assumes it is a real Bigfoot.
“Facebook Find Bigfoot has shut down their page.” This is the latest lie going around from the Dyer deniers. Since FB/FB shut down their page, this proves the Dyer story was a hoax, and the hoax is now proven and busted. FB/FB had pinned all their hopes on the Shooting Bigfoot movie as having concrete evidence of Hank being killed. If the movie did not have such evidence, they said, they would shut down their page. The movie did not have that evidence, but it did not prove the story was a hoax either, so it was pretty much a wash.
The deniers and haters are who shut the page down, not FB/FB. The trolling and hostility had become so bad that FB/FB said they were suspending their page until further notice due to all the trolling by the haters. At some point in the future, they might open the page back up again. They don’t want to ban all the haters because they are not into censorship. So FB/FB did not shut down their page at all; they suspended it. And they suspended it due to hater trolling, not for any other reason.
Stills from Shooting Bigfoot being analyzed. The FB/FB guys are going over 65 stills from the movie and analyzing them. They also have video taken from the movie. Their conclusion is that this footage is of a real Bigfoot, and it is at least as good as the Patterson footage and possibly better. Musky Allen has also seen all of these stills and he told me that cumulatively, they are better than the Patterson footage. I think that their analysis is correct, but I have not seen all of the footage yet.
FB/FB Breakdown of Shooting Bigfoot footage will not be released. This is because of take-down threats by Min now. Any footage released will be subject to a Minnow takedown threat, so it will not be forthcoming.
I will receive all footage from Shooting Bigfoot soon. I am due to receive all 65 stills from the movie along with video footage from the flick. I can’t tell you who I will get it from, but it won’t be from FB/FB or Musky Allen; it will be from someone else instead. This stuff is starting to float around the web now.
“Morgan Matthews proved that Rick’s story is a lie.” This is the latest denier story going around. Supposedly Morgan proved that Rick’s story is a lie when he said he did not help load a Bigfoot onto a truck and he did not help transport a Bigfoot across a country.
Rick has cleared all of this up for us. Rick says that for some reason, Morgan never took any footage of Hank after he was killed. Morgan simply said they were done shooting for the night and were leaving in the morning. Rick said that Morgan watched the Bigfoot being loaded into the truck but he did not help load it. In addition, only Rick and his investors transported the body across the country. Morgan and his team left that morning.
You cannot buy a copy of Shooting Bigfoot from Minnow Films. Early inquiries to Minnow had them telling us that you might be able to buy a copy of the movie from them. However, the most recent word we heard from them was this:
“I’m afraid we aren’t selling copies of the film yet as we don’t have the distribution rights to sell the copies of the film as of yet.”It looks like only BBC may have distribution rights to the film at the moment, unfortunately.
Hank’s body will be released on August 15. Lily Dyer has said that Hank will be released to the public on August 15. This is the famous date of the Rick Dyer 2008 Bigfoot hoax. This is not a coincidence and either means that Rick is going to screw us again on that date as an anniversary present or he is going to redeem himself on that date by showing us a real Bigfoot.
Christopher Noel and FB/FB feel that Dyer is on a mission to be redeemed, and I agree with that view, as odd as it seems. The need for redemption for his sin or crime for whatever reason shows an interesting side to Rick that shows us that he has good qualities to his personality and he is not all bad. After all, only the good seek redemption for their sins. Whether the redemption is motivated by narcissism or by some higher mortal feeling is not particularly important.
Why doesn’t Rick release the body now? It’s not his to release. Apparently it is owned by either his investors or a Las Vegas casino right now, so it is not up to Rick to decide when or if to release the body. I am sorry it had to go this way – Hank landing in the hands of the capitalists. Would be a lot better to make a public display of donating it to the Smithsonian, perhaps, after first being proven real by say Jeff Meldrum or someone of that stature. The great scientific discoveries of our time are not exactly best served being owned by the profiteers.
Why did Matthews make such cryptic statements about Shooting Bigfoot? No one knows why Matthews made such cryptic comments. I have been asking around, but I have not gotten any answers yet. Here is the interview post-screening with Matthews.
The Bigfoot that attacked Morgan was only 6 feet tall. Supposedly Matthews said that the Bigfoot that attacked him was only 6 feet tall, and Hank is 8 feet tall. However, I am not sure that Morgan really made that statement and I am looking into it.
Dyer deniers still planting fake stories with me. I am still receiving fake stories from the Dyer deniers, probably the group around Don Boucher. The latest one was a photo of Hank supposedly from a relative of Rick’s wife Lily. This photo is obviously a Bigfoot mask. At this point, the Dyer haters are hoaxing us a lot more than Rick is.
FB/FB #2 Camper Video plus full sound. If you have not yet seen this excellent breakdown video, you really need to watch it. I liked it a lot.
Homo Heidelbergensis drawings. Here are some H. Heidelbergensis drawings that I found on the web. Heidelbergensis is thought to be what Bigfoots actually are. See how similar they look to the drawings of Bigfoots by people who have seen them.
Homo Heidelbergensis with a spear. This one is a lot stockier with a primitive looking face.
Homo Heidelbergensis. I think he looks a bit too human in this drawing.
Closeup up of H. Heidelbergensis from the spear photo. Note the primitive, apish looking face.
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